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Fact checking Islam related statements

Blizz4rd4ngelFeb 11, 2018, 10:20:17 AM
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I found the following post 

https://www.minds.com/media/808357940973023232

 of this right-wing sounding fellow (just judging from the name of the channel) and decided to fact check what is said in this post point by point. I have to admit that not being a scholar and not knowing how and in which order to interpret these passages makes me likely to miss out on information and context that might be important for interpreting/reading these passages. 

Here are my findings:

1. Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand. https://quran.com/4

- From what I understand, Allah has indeed placed women surrogated to man as they are economically dependent, but are, not explicitly at least, inferior in any aspect. One can definitely argue that this passage is hinting towards the inferiority of women in contrast to men since they can discipline them as if they were children and mold them according to their needs and wishes. On a second reading it could be interpreted that by stating " what Allah has given one over the other" it is implied that they have been granted different gifts and skills (which is true as far as I can tell) and thus they are different. Infering from this statement alone that one is superior/inferior to the other would be a long shot in my opinion.

2. Your wives are a place of sowing of seed for you, so come to your place of cultivation however you wish and put forth [righteousness] for yourselves. And fear Allah and know that you will meet Him. And give good tidings to the believers.

- In this case it could be interpreted that women are recipients of your seed in order for you to righteously procreate. For us it might sound disturbing to liken the woman to a field, but they are the gender that births the offspring after all, so in a metaphorical sense they are like a field in which you plant seeds. If to be taken literally, I can understand it sounding disturbing, more so when it is stated that you may "come to your place of cultivation however you wish". Linking this idea with the passage quoted before it, it gives a negative idea of the woman.

3. O you who have believed, when you contract a debt for a specified term, write it down. And let a scribe write [it] between you in justice. Let no scribe refuse to write as Allah has taught him. So let him write and let the one who has the obligation dictate. And let him fear Allah, his Lord, and not leave anything out of it. But if the one who has the obligation is of limited understanding or weak or unable to dictate himself, then let his guardian dictate in justice. And bring to witness two witnesses from among your men. And if there are not two men [available], then a man and two women from those whom you accept as witnesses - so that if one of the women errs, then the other can remind her. And let not the witnesses refuse when they are called upon. And do not be [too] weary to write it, whether it is small or large, for its [specified] term. That is more just in the sight of Allah and stronger as evidence and more likely to prevent doubt between you, except when it is an immediate transaction which you conduct among yourselves. For [then] there is no blame upon you if you do not write it. And take witnesses when you conclude a contract. Let no scribe be harmed or any witness. For if you do so, indeed, it is [grave] disobedience in you. And fear Allah . And Allah teaches you. And Allah is Knowing of all things.

- In this case there is no commentary to be made on my side, it is quite right in stating that the testimony of one woman is worth that of half a man since she is expected to be wrong in more cases and thus needs another woman to be able to rub two brain cells together.

4. And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].

- A case can be made to interpret this as a grace towards the orphans, for they most likely would have a hard and short life were they to be left to their own devices. So in case that were to happen, better marry and take care of them in order for them to have a better life than if they were left alone. One would have to analyze the historical context of this passage to be able to make a sound judgement about it. But what seems to ring true is that a muslim man may marry as many women as he pleases as long as he is able to provide for them in a just way.

5. Allah instructs you concerning your children: for the male, what is equal to the share of two females. But if there are [only] daughters, two or more, for them is two thirds of one's estate. And if there is only one, for her is half. And for one's parents, to each one of them is a sixth of his estate if he left children. But if he had no children and the parents [alone] inherit from him, then for his mother is one third. And if he had brothers [or sisters], for his mother is a sixth, after any bequest he [may have] made or debt. Your parents or your children - you know not which of them are nearest to you in benefit. [These shares are] an obligation [imposed] by Allah . Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.

- taking into account that the males were expected to take care of the financial burdens derived from providing for the woman/women in their life, I could understand the seemingly unjust division of the wealth of the parents. This, however, makes a good case for discerning that the Qur An is more than just a book of faith, it dictates the way in which the society that adopts it HAS to work, since Allah has so postulated it.

6. Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

- This passage does indeed recommend the beating of the disobedient wives. It does however tell the husband to first admonish them for their behavior, then exile them to another sleeping quarter and lastly hit them if they do not comply. While on one hand it does allow for the physical punishment of the wife, it does so as a last resort measure if the ones preceding it have failed to solve the problem. Not defending it, but stating this passage as it is in the picture is mildly misrepresenting it.

TL;DR

The Qur An does, in the stated passages, encourage the treatment of women as a different class than men and allows for the explicit subjugation of the wives to their husbands, since they are financially dependent on them and can be beaten by them if other measures have failed to make them comply to their husbands wishes.

As I said, I am no expert, just wanted to do a quick fact check on the statements made in the post mentioned above, take my interpretation with a huge grain of salt.