What a wonderful world this is. To be belittled because I write. That was really embassarring. Thank you for including me. Well it is not good enough is it.. Remember flee when you can.
that awkward moment when you think is Cern trying to break out of hell. Maria Pia PassadoreI accept your train of thought. I do not believe it. I thought the world had .. 5777 minus 6000 233 years.. umm.. so y do I remembering 6114 calendar now .. wild.. is this purgatory for me. The possibility of being sent to someplace you were taught was a lie is something I am not sure what else to say. That planet earth has changed is true. That several people are sick from motion sickness yesterday and day prior makes me wonder.. what is happening.
https://www.strangerdimensions.com/2011/10/18/the-dark-side-of-eternity-the-siberia-recording/
in my timeline a 1000 years had to happen with christ as the king prior to armaggeddon, Meaning 7 years satan rules or sort of, then cast into hell, then here he gets out and has china and Mongolia fight immediately for him. In my recollection he got out 70 years and tricked the countries again to fight the last battle. Hell
Okay, so you wanted to know what Hell is. Hell is also an effective mechanism of control developed in its present form by human beings about 2,000 years ago. You know, "Give me ten percent of your gross income or your soul will burn for all eternity in hell." The hell meme developed from Gehenna, which was the name of the Jerusalem city dump. Gehenna was constantly smoldering with spot fires which never went out and Jesus taught several parables about the worthy going to see Abraham after they died while the unworthy were thrown into Gehenna. Fundamentalist preachers, seeing the real power of the fear motive, have interpreted these parables as reports about actual conditions in the afterlife. Numerous religions have their own version of Hell, but not all were a land of punishment.
For example, in Norse mythology people who died as the result of old age or disease rather than in battle went to Helheimr the under region of Niflheim the land of ice and snow. Interestingly the Norse heaven of Asgard and all those in it are to be destroyed in Ragnarök but those in Helheimr will survive to reclaim and rebuild reality after Ragnarök. Many elements of the Norse religion were used in the formation of Star Trek's Klingon religion with Sto-vo-kor becoming the Klingon Asgard, Gre'Thor becoming Helheimr with the idea of Purgatory from Roman Catholic Christianity thrown in (acts of heroic sacrifice by a family member can redeem someone in Gre'Thor).
More modern versions of Hell have done away with the fire and brimstone of Christianity for a more personalized punishment.
For example, in Twilight Zone episode "Nice Place to Visit" and Theater Five radio story "The Land of Milk and Honey" you have a person who believes they have gone to Heaven as they have everything they ever wanted in life but quickly get bored and ask to go to The Other Place (Hell) and find out that they are already in the other place.
In Night Gallery's "Hell's Bells" a hippie goes to Hell and after spending time in a waiting room is let into a room with records as far as the eye can see but they are all of music he finds "square". He then find a farmer who quickly bores him, then a couple appears with their 8,500-strong collection of their Tijuana vacation slides. Exasperated, the hippy demands that the Devil show up and explain this. The Devil appears and explains the exact same experience can be found in Heaven but for the hippy this is Hell and then leaves the hippy to his very personal Hell.
In the Twilight Zone episode "Judgement Night" Kapitan Lieutenant Carl Lanser experiences the last hours of the ship he sank with no warning over and over again. As Gorgdi Laforge said in the "Time Squared" episode of Star Trek Next Generation, "Sounds like someone's idea of hell to me."
Steven Brust's 1984 To Reign in Hell is another version of Hell where it is a third stronghold against a wave of raw chaos (cacoastrum) formed out of political fallout regarding the cost (the lives of at least 1000 Angels) to create the second stronghold of Earth.
5777 minus 6000 233 years.. umm.. so y do I remembering 6114 calendar now .. wild.. is this purgatory for me. The possibility of being sent to someplace you were taught was a lie is something I am not sure what else to say. That planet earth has changed is true. That several people are sick from motion sickness yesterday and day prior makes me wonder.. what is happening.
http://www.deagel.com/.../United-States-of-America_c0001... if bs why does the cia and army say 260 million americans are gone by 2025
I accept your train of thought. I do not believe it. I thought the world had .. 5777 minus 6000 233 years.. umm.. so y do I remembering 6114 calendar now .. wild.. is this purgatory for me. The possibility of being sent to someplace you were taught was a lie is something I am not sure what else to say. That planet earth has changed is true. That several people are sick from motion sickness yesterday and day prior makes me wonder.. what is happening.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Purgatory great a noncatholic site tells me I might be here for a while.. small sins are forgiven.. oh myyy.. this will be a long parallel world visit.. That I might be screwed is a potential possibility that I had not considered until yesterday after seeing something and recognizing something.. you ask what.. maybe I will say.. mprecise doctrine
For many (one might argue, most) souls, it is a semi-permanent place of mild suffering where anyone who has not received the correct sacraments must wait until their as-yet unforgiven "venial" (small) sins are "set aside", making them fit enough to go to heaven. Official doctrine calls it a "State of Purification".
Critically, Catholic theology speculates that the souls of unbaptized but otherwise "sinless" children not only go to purgatory, but must remain there for an eternity[citation needed] but considers other possibilities. See Modern times.
Some traditions hold that all people enter purgatory briefly, as a state between death and judgement. Purgatory is generally understood as anything from a state of "eternal sleep" to being "conscious but without pain", to a mild sense of tedious displeasure. In Piers Anthony's "Incarnations" world, purgatory is a place of endless red-tape, paper pushing 9-5 ('cept 24/7) office work tedium.
In reality, pinning down what purgatory is, within the guides of Church doctrine, is about like trying to pin down what the trinity is.
Getting yourself out
To reduce the time you have to spend in Purgatory, avoid all sins of commission, learn all the sins of omission so you can avoid them too, and confess what sins you did let slip past to a priest so you will not have so many unforgiven sins when you die. Alternatively if you can't get something past the priest, there are ways to get the church to be with you on that.
[edit]Protestantism, Orthodoxy and others
Protestant doctrine generally denies the existence of Purgatory.
The Eastern Orthodox Church holds that there is an intermediate space between death and judgement, but they do not call it purgatory, and it does not hold any of the semi-permanence of Purgatory as it is understood within most Catholic doctrine, nor is it a place of "purification" or "punishment". This is one of the issues that caused the "Great Schism"
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The Great Schism, also known as the Great Schism of 1054 or the East-West Schism was the schism by which the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church separated. Cultural and liturgical differences were debated as early as the 6th century; they officially split by excommunicating each other in 1054, and only ended the mutual anathema in 1965.
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The name Gehinnom was originally attached to a literal place outside Jerusalem. Prior to the reign of Josiah, the valley was allegedly the site of child sacrifices by fire, comparable to those unearthed at Carthage. During his reign, the temple at which these sacrifices took place was destroyed.[1]
According to Christian traditions, the location then held a continuously burning heap of rubbish, leading to the conception of hell as fiery.
[edit]As a punishment in the afterlife
In Rabbinic Judaism, the name Gehinnom is used for a purgatory-like place of atonement for sins. Souls enter it after their death, and spend upwards of a year there. Afterwards, they either ascend to olam ha-ba, the world to come, if righteous, or turn to ashes if not. The exceptions are really bad sinners, who just stay there forever.
In Christian texts, the term Gehenna is used to reference boring old Hell.
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Gehenna or Gehinnom is the name of Judaism's equivalent to purgatory. It is a place of punishment for the wicked, though it is usually believed that said punishment lasts for a year only.