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The 25th Amendment Zombie Fantasy keeps coming back to life: NO! The 25th CANNOT be used to remove Donald Trump from office

PoliTechSep 21, 2018, 9:08:19 PM
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Yet more Washington DC and journalist self parody, (Don’t they ever get tired of making themselves look like utter fools? I guess not!).

Today the New York Times reported that apparently Rod Rosenstein at one time suggested that he would be willing to wear a "Wire" and secretly record President Trump in the Oval office with the aim of using the 25th Amendment to Remove the President from office.

I doubt the NYT story could be true because Rosenstein can't possibly think that the 25th amendment could be used to remove a President from office for political reasons. Rosenstein simply can't be that ignorant. If he is then he should be ushered out of any position of power entirely - right now - today!.

The 25th Amendment just can't be used that way.

Washington’s growing obsession with the 25th Amendment has been an ongoing fantasy among the left for quite some time.

The 25th Amendment has been only used three times for temporary measures related to medical operations.

Establishment politicians , lying journalists, antifa morons, and anti-Trump idiots of all stripes have spent the past two years fantasizing all over the Internet about using the 25th amendment to “remove” President Trump from office.

There is only one tiny problem with the idea; It’s never going to happen.

The 25th amendment was written as it is, precisely to avoid one political party using it for this exact type of political chicanery against the other.

None of the people pushing to trigger the 25th Amendment seem realize how circuitous, unlikely, difficult and involved the process required to exercise section 4 of the 25th amendment actually would be.

Is exercising the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office even possible?

In a word, NO. At least … Not permanently.

However, let's War Game out the absurd 25th amendment pipe-dream of the various and sundry anti-Trump morons 

I'll actually take a serious look and describe exactly how and why using the 25th amendment could never work to remove an unpopular president from his elected office permanently.

We start with the highly improbable idea that under the 25th amendment’s constitutional mandate, Vice President Mike Pence along with the majority of President Trump’s Cabinet would publicly announce, and transmit in writing, a declaration to the President pro tempore of the Senate (currently Orrin Hatch) and the Speaker of the House of Representatives (currently Paul Ryan) that President Trump is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.

In this fantasy it would be because President Trump is charged with being  “mentally disabled” or otherwise “mentally unfit for office”, ostensibly because Rosenstein wore a "wire" into the Oval office and now has some secret recordings of the President speaking harshly or saying controversial things in the privacy of the supposedly "secure" Oval office.

Setting aside the question of who exactly would be qualified to make the determination and who would be the arbiter of what “Stable Behavior” or “fitness to serve” actually is in the first place, and also ignoring the criminal act of wearing a "Wire" and surreptitiously recording the classified discussions that occur within the Oval office, (we are really out on a limb here already, but let's keep at it) in the event of a serious effort to exercise the 25 amendment, VP Pence could only temporarily assume the role of commander in chief.

Why temporarily?

Because President Trump could immediately make a public declaration that;

“I am just fine, in fact, I’m the BEST EVER! … Big League!!!”

At that point, the VP and Trump’s cabinet would have only four days to again publicly declare (and transmit in writing to the legislature) that President Trump is still disabled or otherwise unfit to hold the office.

If four days pass before making such a declaration, President Trump would resume the Presidential office and the Vice President along with the recalcitrant cabinet members whom had joined in making such a declaration of disloyalty, would all be fired post haste … likely within hours.

That would be that.

However …

In the increasingly unlikely and far-fetched circumstance that the President’s own cabinet and his heretofore loyal Vice President did in fact reiterate an official claim of President Trump’s unsuitability for office and announce as much publicly, and in writing, within the four the day’s time-frame as required by the amendment, the entire Congressional body would then be obliged to assemble within 48 hours after the subsequent cabinet response.

The legislature would then have 21 days to not only debate the President’s “Fitness or Unfitness” for office, but also then vote to prevent the President’s resumption of office.

It gets better … Congress would not only have to perform the vote in both the House as well as the Senate in a mere 21 days, they also must pass the vote to rule whether or not Trump can “discharge the powers and duties of his office” by a margin of two-thirds in the House … as well as two-thirds in the Senate.

That debate is where the question of just who is making the “Fitness” determination would likely be hashed out.

In 21 days,

Yeah sure.

Now even if congress could successfully perform the incredibly unlikely, unrealistic and downright implausible two thirds majority vote in both the House and the Senate, (which the modern day legislature simply cannot do – for anything – let alone this, but let’s play this scenario out) and they somehow do actually prevent the President from resuming his elected office because they have determined him somehow “Unfit” … and assuming that Vice President Pence were to volunteer to stay on as president (because any fight for the office by any other individual would more than likely force the process to exceed the 21 day limit) …

Why, that’s still not the end of the power struggle, not by a long shot.

President Trump only needs to come right back and say publicly, ‘Well, now I really am OK this time … better than I was in November 2016!!!”.

Then congress would have to repeat the entire 25th amendment process …

Like the movie “Groundhog day” …

Every time Trump says “Hey I’m really great now and ready to perform my duties of office, Let’s make America great again!” … Congress would have 48 hours to assemble, and then 21 days to debate and vote to declare Trump “unfit” … again.

By a two thirds majority in the House of Representatives … again.

By a two thirds majority in the Senate … again.

They would have to do this … every time.

Why, it could be a monthly event!

Imagine the weekly Trump rallies where “President in absentia” Trump spends an hour or two speaking to an enormous MAGA crowd … in a different state every time, and insisting to be re-seated as President during every speech, speeches that “President in absentia” Trump also sends to congress, triggering a new vote … time … after time … after time. (He’s a billionaire, he can certainly afford to rent the stadiums)

The legislature would have time for nothing else.

They wouldn’t even be able to break for recess, possibly for years!

Imagine the public pressure that 63 million plus "Deplorable Dregs of Society" Trump voters would apply onto the Congress critters to put an end to the ongoing “Constitutional Crises” that the legislature would have created and would be constantly presiding over.

How long do you think Congress could keep up a two thirds vote? Could they do it even once more? Let alone achieve a two thirds majority vote month after month in both the House and Senate?

Nope. It's not a remotely realistic proposal. The 25th amendment can only truly be used for what it was intended for.

There are some other 25th amendment scenarios that have been posited by a few leftist journalists playing at “Constitutional Expert” where the Congress itself votes to remove the President from office, but those are almost entirely theoretical, even more unlikely than the fever dream above, and even those scenarios would require cooperation from Vice President Pence. The remaining process would be exactly the same thereafter. Furthermore, why would congress try to use the 25th, when they could simply start impeachment proceedings?

It’s not only not very possible to remove President Trump from office using the 25th amendment, it’s as near impossible as anything can be. However the media, the snowflakes, establishment uniparty political hacks, and apparently some of the DOJ leadership all keep on hoping …

While we all keep on laughing.