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Nothing Is True, Everything Is Permitted (Trust Networks) #MindsGaming #Op #OpenMinds

#MindsGamingJan 5, 2020, 2:16:49 AM

Minds has a mysterious product called t3, this project has very limited documentation on how it will work, or when it is planned to be implemented. The information we do have is that it is a social trust system.

The project (t3) stands is a “Trust Tree Traversal. Solving fake news, deep fakes and trust online with DID.” according to the Minds t3 git.  We fond more information from a post made by Mark Harding leading to DevPost .

In the article on DevPost we find some information on the project where we can start to understand what the project is at is most basic form.


It's getting harder to know what's real and what's fake news. T3 provides trust scores that allow you to make an informed decision on whose posts you can believe, and whose you should be skeptical about. Your own vote is only part of the trustworthiness calculation - we traverse 3 degrees of your social network and build a trust score based on your vote and the votes of those you trust.

What it does

There are three trust actions, Trust, Neutral, and Distrust. These actions are written to the blockchain and used to calculate trust scores.

How we built it

We created a simple angular site, a Solidity smart contract to store the trust scores, the uPort protocol for authentication. In order to get enough identities in the system, we created a list of Simpsons characters, gave them some ETH, and created some trust relationships between them. Also built with caffeine, headphones & pizza.

Challenges we ran into

Encountered a fundamental bug with uPort + Infura app - "legacy request rate exceeded", which ate a significant amount of time and made it hard to test and get started. Also had issues with IFPS being too slow, which meant that the application couldn't use fully decentralized transaction signings and rely on delegates instead.

Accomplishments that we're proud of

We're on the blockchain! We delivered our fundamental goal of implementing a decentralized ID app.

What we learned

It's important to be flexible and continually re-assess goals and strategies on how to achieve them. The purple-haired twins on the Simpsons are named Sherri and Terri.

What's next for T3: Trust Tree Traversal

Incorporate into Minds.com. More accurate trust scores. Performance enhancements and refactoring.

Built With: angular.js , ethr , solidity , uport , web3

Try it out

• t3.minds.com

A Social Trust System

What we have here it seems is a peer to peer social trust system. This is where other users that are on the blockchain can “vote” on how much they trust your channel or account. The main purpose outlines that is is fighting fake news and maybe deep bots(?).

We will break down here why after some deep thought we have come up with some points of interest that we want to cover, both positive and negative. The main points that users will make to push back the social system are: pushing channels to the social norm, attacks on channels, and generally trolling.

The Norm

It seems with the system you would actually be creating your own social norm, “we traverse 3 degrees of your social network and build a trust score based on your vote and the votes of those you trust.”. This means that the score you see would be based off accounts you have already “voted” to trust and your own score. This also negates the issue of channel attacks and general trolling of the system as they would only see the score they have made by “voting” and “trusting” and the vote they made would only affect channels that “trust” them.

The main question would be about transparency, as if the score is based on my “vote” and accounts I “trust” would the votes from channels I already trust be publicly view-able. The next important question would be if the trust system will be opt-in, as I can see some channels that may want a score and benefit from having said score, but of course some channels may not want a score to be displayed and they should be able to opt-out at the very least.

I think if Minds plays the cards right with this trust system they may come to the point of “Nothing Is True, Everything Is Permitted” as you are making what is true based off your vote and others you “trust” and if allowed to opt-out or into the system anything would be permitted. 

Thanks as always for reading our view on these issues, we know we will get some backlash on this one so let it rip! :)