Church -or- the 5th Kingdom that crushed all previous empires?
This is shared to further define:
What is The Ecclesia? Is It A Church?
A Cult? Is It Important?
and how it applies to:
The Ecclesian Way
[ a path far above the bankrupt traditions of men: church-state-money. a narrow path that could lead to a life beyond what one can presently imagine or think: a new earth, a new heavenly administration, a third position. but who's willing to invest in truth over rebellion, escapism, entertainment or distractions from a commercial world to find the liberty of exceptions to these bankrupt traditions? ]Also see: THE RELIGION OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER (70 pgs)
19 part audio series by Charlie Steward of God Send Us Men Ministries (with written transcripts):
“Church” or “Kingdom” http://www.godsendusmen.com/audio.html
as one goes thru these, please post notes in comments.
e.g further references, corrections, and additions.
046 audio 6-30-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom? Pt1 ..the word "church" should not be in our English Bibles (except just a couple times). Yeshua was NOT building weekend social organizations. He was building HIS EVERLASTING KINGDOM - and that's what the word ecclesia means. Deceivers who wanted to make sure that His Kingdom is not discovered purposely inserted the word "church" into our Bibles where it should NOT be. By doing so, they changed the entire meaning of the Scriptures and what our purpose is supposed to be. Written Transcript
047 audio 7-07-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom? Pt 2 why... the English word "church" should not be in our English Bibles. "Church" means a building. Ecclesia is a Government. It is the Kingdom of God, the reign of Christ on this earth as it is in Heaven. Please follow along with an open heart, an open mind and an open Bible. Written Transcript
048 audio 7-14-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom? Pt 3 why the English word "church" should not be in our English Bibles. "Church" means a building. Ecclesia is a Government. It is the Kingdom of God, the reign of Christ on this earth as it is in Heaven. Please follow along with an open heart, an open mind and an open Bible. Written Transcript
049 audio 7-21-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom? - Pt 4 why the English word "church" should not be in our English Bibles. "Church" means a building. Ecclesia is a Government. It is the Kingdom of God, the reign of Christ on this earth as it is in Heaven. Please follow along with an open heart, an open mind and an open Bible. Written Transcript
050 audio 7-28-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom? - Pt 5 continuing with "Church" or Kingdom.. had some responses to last week's message that led me to clarify some of what I had to say concerning "immigration" in America. Don't be fooled, the issue is not "immigration" - it is "documentation." Written Transcript
051 audio 8-04-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom? - Pt 6 discuss some of the teachings of J.N. Darby, the founder of the modern "pre-trib rapture" doctrine, the two-fold coming of Christ and the future king and kingdom message that has brought our civilization to the brink of destruction. Darby actually had a teaching with which I agree - the word "church" should not be in our English Bibles and "church" resembles nothing of the first century ecclesia that Christ delivered. Problem is, his futuristic scheme of theology prevented him from providing the answer to the "problem" he called "church." He replaced "church" with nothing - which produced complacency and paved the way for "nothing". Written Transcript
refs: Christianity-not-christendom. and What if American christians actually thought we could win.
052 audio 8-11-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom? - pt 7 re the last hearing this past week (called a "pre-trial conference") was supposed to be the final hearing before the trials begin in late Sept. After the update, we get back into our messages concerning "Church" or Kingdom. Written Transcript
refs: https://www.courts.mo.gov/hosted/probono/name_change.htm , Neal v Neal, and Matter of Natale
053 audio 8-18-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom? - Part 8 If God's Laws are done away with - what are we left with? The "church" and the "churchmen" teach that God Himself "nailed his Laws to the cross" thereby yielding the power to define Good and Evil to finite man. Preachers who teach the present day reality of the Kingdom - teach the exact opposite! Both teachings cannot be right. They are complete opposites one from another. Written Transcript
054 audio 8-25-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom? - Pt 9 "They that worship Him, MUST worship Him in spirit and in truth." The English word "Church" does not come from kurios or kuriakon. It comes from the Scottish kirk, kirke, kirche. The word "church" should not be in our English Bibles. Yet an entire creation of "religion" has evolved into something called "church" - a word that should not even be in the Bible! Written Transcript
055 audio 9-1-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom? - Pt 10 We claim to be followers of Jesus/Yeshua the Christ. But do we really believe that He was the Messiah? The modern jew says that He was not - because He did not fulfill the prophecies. The "church" says that He didn't fulfill ALL the prophecies - but will someday. The modern jew says He was not the Messiah because He did not fulfill ALL the prophecies. Which is it? Biblically, you can't have it both ways. He either fulfilled the prophecies and He WAS/IS Messiah and King - or He did not fulfill ALL the prophecies and He WAS/IS NOT Messiah. Written Transcript
056 audio 9-8-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom? - Pt 11 The "church" the "churchmen" and the jews all teach that a third temple in Jerusalem is to be built in fulfillment or Bible prophecy. If a man believes this - he cannot believe that Jesus / Yeshua was the Messiah sent by God in the first century. Written Transcript
refs: https://www.aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html and https://www.jewishvoice.org/read/article/update-building-third-temple
057 audio 9-15-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom? - Pt 12 if they teach the jew's religion - any part of it - they are teaching heresy. If a man believes the jew's religion - he has not heard the true Gospel and is need of coming to the truth. Teaching such things as a future, physical rebuilt temple in Jerusalem is damnable heresy and if a man believes it or teaches it - he is lost and is need of a Saviour. Written Transcript
058 audio 9-22-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom? - Pt 13 . have already provided evidence that the word "church" should not be in our English Bibles. This message continues examining the message of the "church" and the "churchmen" versus the message of the King and the King's men. The message from the “church” and the “churchmen” has been the mainstream understanding of the Bible for most people and most societies....look where it has gotten us. It’s time for us to quit beating our heads against the wall and follow the King and His message. Written Transcript
059 audio 9-29-2019 - "Church" Exposed - Pt 14 The pastors and the prophets walk after things that "do not profit." How much more "in your face" does a 501(c)(3) NOT FOR PROFIT corporation need to be before we wake up and see that the message and the methods of those playing "church" do not even resemble what the Bible teaches as Ecclesia / Kingdom? Written Transcript
060 audio 10-06-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom- Pt 15 This past week, Ted Weiland preached Pt 15 of his series, "Key Words to Vital Truths." In his message, he presented more evidence that the English word "church" not only should not be in our Bibles, but it has been used to prevent the Kingdom of God from advancing. I present an introduction and some concluding comments in this hour. Written Transcript
061 audio 10-13-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom - Strange Fire, Pt 16 Today we examine the story of Nadab and Abihu from Leviticus 10. We do not have the authority to create "religions." We do not have the authority to change the plan of God for His creation, no more than we have the authority to define good and evil. When we deviate from the plan of God, we are making and playing with "strange fire." "Playing church" outside of a foundation for Ecclesia - is "strange fire." "Strange fire" can warm - but ultimately it will kill! Written Transcript
ref: Joseph Canfield, The Incredible Scofield and His Book
062 audio 10-20-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom - A True Ecclesia, Pt 17 continue looking at the New Haven Colony Covenant, the first Biblically established Ecclesia in America (that I am aware of). We also discuss passages of Scripture that prove the Gospel and the Ecclesia are political. R.J. Rushdoony, in his book, Faith and Action stated that the very word - gospel - was understood as an "imperalistic-political word." I agree! Written Transcript
063 audio 10-27-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom - A True Ecclesia, Pt 18 In today's message, we continue looking at the message of the "church" and the "churchmen." In the spring of 2019, jewish israeli politicians declared they wanted the "third temple built - now." Then, exactly on cue, the "churchmen" in America declared that Bible prophecy was being fulfilled. "The rapture is coming, we are going to be rescued!" This is not just religious deception - this concept of twisting the Scriptures into lies for an agenda is an act of war. Written Transcript
064 audio 11-03-2019 - "Church" or Kingdom - A True Ecclesia, Pt 19 Today we conclude looking at the New Haven Colony Covenant, one of the last known Ecclesias we know of. This is what Christ meant when He said He would build His Ecclesia - His Kingdom. Do we serve the same God that David served - who enabled him to slay giants? Do we serve the same God who delivered Hananiah, Azariah, Mishrael from the burning fiery surface? We are supposed to be building Christian communities of believers - today. Do we serve a God that is powerful enough to do this work through us? (In this message, I quoted from Ecclesiastes 4. I mistakenly said I was reading from Song of Solomon.) Written Transcript
This is the end of the Church vs Kingdom series.
Please note: this series only deals with churchianity, but does not have alternative solutions to the STATE or MONEY issues. (e.g. in one audio Charlie talks about "God's money", which is an obvious oxymoron. Divine Law only talks of a "just weight and just measure", and any discussion of "money" was always because of adam's fall out of the garden. More on this here:
Why has it been said that "love" was the currency of the 21st Century? How does the 5th Kingdom (under new covenant) regard "love" as the spiritual currency that can overcome all of men's bankrupt traditions of church-state-money (i.e. religion-politics-banksterism)? What if "love" was/is the effect/cause of Kingdom Banking for turning the world Right-Side up again? Wouldn't learning why this is true be a worthy undertaking? If one was to be "redeemed without money", how does this principle carry forward after 70A.D. for the royal-priesthood of a set-apart nation commanded to "overcome" and turn this world right-side up again?
Also, before one can begin to understand Kingdom banking, two things are needed for every "friend of the bridegroom": 1st one must learn how agape can "bond" a friend's undertaking to further the 5th Kingdom in the world, then 2nd, one must understand "duty of care"-- why is a proper definition of law, gov't and justice needed? what is equity?
More on these topics in the Hospitality Fellowship Group.